Re: rare groove

From: Keyser & Shuriken (keyser.shuriken@freemail.hu)
Date: Tue May 16 2000 - 12:25:49 MET DST

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    The rare groove movement in my perception is strongly bound with the 7"
    business. I have seen a great deal of flyers in New York for rare funk
    nights claiming that they only play 7" singles. Also heard of a german guy -
    obviously a dj, collector, vinyl junkie - who went all the way to
    Philadelphia to check out an abandoned warehouse where somebody stocked
    thousands and thousands of 7" singles from the 60s, 70s era. The guy flew
    over with a portable mini turntable, and spent all his time in the warehouse
    digging through the junk for lost gems. Freaked out and gave it up after a
    week though. At least this is what I've heard from a friend of his.
    Even though I don't think that rare groove is strickly about 7". I reallly
    liked the wording (lost singles and albums) in dchapman's definition:

    "All these compilations contain a mixture of modern soul and jazz-funk
    > > tracks (on the smooth side of jazz-funk, I would say), which are "rare"
    in
    > > the literal sense that they come from hard-to-find and extremely
    expensive
    > > lost singles and albums.

    But these are just stupid names stuck on great music.

    shuriken

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: R. Scott <framboise@mindspring.com>
    To: <dchapman@ucla.edu>; Marco Baroni <baroni@humnet.ucla.edu>
    Cc: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:21 AM
    Subject: Re: rare groove

    > Rare Groove to me encompasses all the great jazz/funk/soul stuff from '67
    to
    > about '73.
    >
    > peace,
    > R. Scott
    > framboise@mindspring.com
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Marco Baroni" <baroni@humnet.ucla.edu>
    > To: <dchapman@ucla.edu>
    > Cc: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:29 AM
    > Subject: Re: rare groove
    >
    >
    > > I have the very same problem, and I am very glad you asked this, since I
    > > hope that the very knowledgeable people inhabiting this list will
    provide
    > > us with lots of information on what, exactly, constitutes rare groove.
    > >
    > > Anyway, I can recommend some "rare groove" compilations, not because
    they
    > > really explain what rare groove is, but because they contain some great
    > > music:
    > >
    > > Classic Rare Groove 1 & 2 (Mastercuts)
    > > Capitol Rare 1, 2 & 3 (Blue Note)
    > > Strange Games & Things (BBE)
    > >
    > > All these compilations contain a mixture of modern soul and jazz-funk
    > > tracks (on the smooth side of jazz-funk, I would say), which are "rare"
    in
    > > the literal sense that they come from hard-to-find and extremely
    expensive
    > > lost singles and albums.
    > >
    > > Also, you can download from the kcrw site (www.kcrw.net) the Chocolate
    > City
    > > show in which Garth Trinidad (is this the right name?) interviews Norman
    > > Jay, who is often said to be the father of rare groove. If I remember
    > > correctly, what emerges from this interview is simply that rare groove
    is,
    > > well, rare soul and funky music from the seventies -- the kind you are
    not
    > > going to hear on oldies stations.
    > >
    > > A long time ago, I've read something about the rare groove movement
    being
    > > related to the need of hip hop djs to sample rare stuff, in order to
    sound
    > > original and cool, and to avoid being sued by James Brown...
    > >
    > > I hope somebody else on the list can give us more information about rare
    > > groove.
    > >
    > > Marco
    > >
    > > >Hey,
    > > >
    > > >I'm trying to get a handle on what it is, exactly, that constitutes
    "rare
    > > >groove." Can anyone point me in the direction of any good books,
    > > >articles, discographies, CD compilations. . . anything would help, as
    the
    > > >little that I've seen of things talking about it has been hopelessly
    > > >vague.
    > >
    > >
    >
    >



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