Re: The Machines Rule (was: Re: Damn The Machines!!!!)

From: R. Scott (framboise@mindspring.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 2000 - 02:01:07 CET

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    If all an individual wants to do is sit in his room and make music (via
    machine or instrument) so be it. However, it's the motivation that adds to
    the fabric and direction of music. A 'bedroom critic' is the worst kind
    because while ready to deride the current state of music, he's not ready to
    back up his words/stance with a release.

    Playing live and interacting with an audience is, to me, one of the greatest
    experiences an artist/musician can have. It's all about the interaction,
    breaking down the wall and MOVING people. The technology or method is
    irrelevant. Just an indication of the era in which it was made.

    True that a lot of the acid-jazz music was narrow-minded and doomed due to
    it's recreation of the past without vision into the future. But, again it
    moved people and came from an era that was rediscovering great records of
    the past and was a little unsure of the future.

    I guess my point is - just create it and get it out there. Let the cliques
    and the masses do with it what they will. If you believe in it and how you
    made it that's all that matters.

    peace,
    R. Scott
    framboise@mindspring.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Elson Trinidad" <elson@westworld.com>
    To: "Eighth Dimension" <badmood@earthlink.net>; "acid jazz"
    <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 2:04 PM
    Subject: Re: The Machines Rule (was: Re: Damn The Machines!!!!)

    > At 03:28 PM 11/26/00 -0500, Eighth Dimension wrote:
    > >At 8:13 PM -0800 on 11/25/00, Elson Trinidad wrote:
    > >>
    > >>I know people will throw eggs and various garden vegetables at me for
    saying
    > >>this, but in my experience, most people doing the studio production
    thing are
    > >>doing it for the love of it, the art of it (hey, it's all underground
    anyway)
    > >>and those playing in live bands are primarily in it for the money.
    >
    > >Now, with new avenues of technology, we see the revolt of the
    > >artistic loner, as he/she is able to fulfill his/her goals solitarily
    > >without the annoyances of pesky bandmates. Thus, the only people left
    > >in bands are the grandstanders and the fame-grabbers, while the
    > >artists are staying home.
    >
    > Interesting point. Actually my point about live players "only out to make
    > money" are more oriented towards mercenary sidemen...i.e. they'll ask how
    > much a gig pays, they say they'll come to rehearsal, won't show up to
    > rehearsal, will show up to a gig late and just ask for some charts and ask
    > for their cash 10 minutes after the set is over. As a person who takes
    > music on a more personal, almost spiritual level, I find that rather
    > offensive and unappealing. So if more of them are out of work these days,
    > then good riddance...I'll remember to throw a penny in their cup when they
    > busk in the streets...not!
    >
    > >struggles. Being locked up in my studio and doing one-off DJ gigs is
    > >actually much more fulfilling.
    >
    > Though I'm not a DJ...YES IT IS! You get to make *music* and not excuses.
    >
    > Now I follow Reynolds' evolution as I
    > >find myself stuck in a rut and need to go forward by going back to
    > >bring my sound to more people. Thus, I'm working on the band thing
    > >again, getting together a few others to add the emotional spark of
    > >on-stage 'vibing' to the one-man studio productions.
    >
    > You're doing what you want to do. That's what an artist does. Best of luck
    > to your project.
    >
    > A weekend ago I went and saw a live hip-hop/jazz band who came down from
    > San Francisco whom I'm sort of acquaintances with. After the show some of
    > the members and some others had an impromptu jam and their keyboardist
    > offered me to play his Rhodes. I'd be a liar if I said I didn't have fun
    > jamming with them.
    > So yeah, that's one aspect of full band playing that I miss.
    >
    > I've always envied other bands, take Ozomatli, whom I've seen since they
    > were playing no-name local gigs here in Los Angeles, how they can get a
    > dozen or so people all into what they're doing and rocking the crowd with
    > full force amazed me.
    >
    > But then again, in reality, they never played more than the same 10-12
    > songs that were on their debut album, two members are now on leave of
    > absence due to their, um "little hip-hop side project" and I hear a lot of
    > the original members are no longer there. Even a friend of a friend, a
    > turntablist who subbed for Cut Chemist for one of their tours, absolutely
    > hated the experience. They're touring the world, playing in London and
    > Sydney for sure, but playing the same 10-12 songs they've been playing
    > since 1996...I think that's kind of sad.
    >
    >
    >
    > - 30 -
    > : . elson trinidad, los angeles, california, usa
    > : . elson@westworld.com : www.westworld.com/~elson
    > : . groove to the futurethnic beats of e:trinity at www.e-trinity.org and
    > www.mp3.com.etrinity
    >



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