re: "Real Things"

From: brunello (brunello@tin.it)
Date: Sun Dec 02 2001 - 12:21:40 CET

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    At 23.29 01/12/01 -0500, Eric wrote:
    >Strictly speaking the artists you mention are not acid jazz artists either,
    >and I'm not sure why you consider that to be "real music"...

                                            Calvin wrote:

    >Talking about pitch might mean something you can't relate to, but please
    >don't try and stop other people from talking about it please.

    Hi Mates,
    "strictly speaking" the Acid Jazz movement started in the late 80's
    and finished in the mid of 90's.That is the period in which this list grew up.
         So I see that most part of talk in these list it's not about Acid Jazz,
    but i accepted it and I like it since five years ago when i subscribed to
    this list.
          We always know that this list is a conventional place where to share
    and talk about good music with certain characteristics that are changin
    everyday and that we feel and share in an instinctive and common way.
            No matter what major domestic labels with heavy distribution
    decide about our presumed future music or tastes...
           Like I said ,i'm not a rookie of this list and surely i
    don't claim to define what is real music or stop anyone to talk about
    pitch games or venues I'll can't never visit.
           I like it all and i did and i'll do share all this with all of u.
           I respect all of your opinion!!
           I still like mess around with my 1210 mk and I'll keep on buying vynils.
           The sense of my first mail and i apologize if it did'nt succeded to
    transmit it in an effective way ,is that it seems strange to me having
    read for istance, so many mails about Nikka Costa (I like it ,I got it)
    that is'nt an acidjazz artist (always strictly speaking..) and so little
    about Ursula Rucker or Llorca or 4 hero that are not acidjazz artists
    ,strictly speaking...but play good music the same.
            I remember hundreds of mails about Jill Scott when two years ago
    the girl was raisin.
    Maybe now it's not so cool to talk about her because now she has an heavy
    distribution ?
    I'm not criticizing but telling my opinion.
               I was surprised to see goin under silence in this list a great
    work like "Experience".
               I write to list one mail every 2 years about,(so these days are
    statistically important to me....) but i read all the mails since five or
    six years .
              I usually prefer read your mex than write mine(lazy guy).
              But when I write ,i'd like to be read without having lessons on
    what AJ is or what are the pro and cons of Mainstream US music market.
            Don't put yourself on defensive.
            I love this list.
            I was only talking about music.
            With respect
            Brunello

              P.S. My opinion on Experience's Jill Scott?
                     If U are subscribed here ,U can buy it....
                     And if u check on the 22/11/01 tracklist of Gilles
    Peterson Worldwide
                     U can find Jill's Sweet justice.
                     Who explain to him that Jill is not an acidjazz artist,
    strictly speaking?

    >maybe because
    >they are out on major domestic labels with heavy distribution and commercial
    >FM radio air play? I can understand how that would make them seem more
    >legitimate to your average American consumer.
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "brunello" <brunello@tin.it>
    >To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    >Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:50 PM
    >Subject: Real things
    >
    >
    > > A
    > > >It sounds far too fast at 45, and too slow at 33!
    > > >The best for me is around +6 on 33.
    > > >What does anybody else think?
    > >
    > >
    > > Excuse me fellows,
    > > but something is going on on my mind ,maybe in a subliminal way ,
    > > but this feeling is still with me now.
    > > I respect all your mails,tastes and opinions,and i find interesting this
    > > last discussion about pitch (+6, -3 and on)too.
    > > But...i'm on this list since 4 or 5 years,and i remember it was originally
    > > based on acidjazzsoulfunkyetc:music ,definitively.
    > > Yes I know the story about the fact the music is changin everyday,taste
    >are
    > > changing and bla bla bla....
    > > I remember that only one year ago there were several of us talking,writing
    > > and waiting about and for the new sade or maxwell work(sad the first
    >,fake
    > > skin the second,my personal opinion of course).
    > > But now that we finally have a real masterpiece around :"Experience" Jill
    > > Scott
    > > why don't we talk about real music ?
    > > Ciao
    > > Brunello
    > >
    > >
    > > >Daf
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >----- Original Message -----
    > > >From: ** Myrna ** <medea_13@hotmail.com>
    > > >To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > > >Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:58 PM
    > > >Subject: pitch/ninja tune
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > regarding pitch:
    > > > >
    > > > > i think fragment orchestra's "carioca" is supposed to be played at 33
    >and
    > > > > something(?) but i like it at 45, pitch -5
    > > > > but all this coming from the girl who likes to speed up "transcend me"
    > > > > :)
    > > > >
    > > > > regarding ninja tune:
    > > > >
    > > > > i like the roots manuva, it doesn't blow my mind but i play it quite a
    > > >bit,
    > > > > "evil rabbit" being my track.
    > > > > liked the antibalas (how could u not?)
    > > > > up, bustle and out--again, doesn't blow my mind but i respect their
    >work
    > > > > immensely, the ties to cuba, the whole radio rebelde thing.
    > > > > i don't know, i'm quite mesmerized with what they've done, their
    >ideas,
    > > >etc.
    > > > >
    > > > > regarding access to music/money to buy music:
    > > > >
    > > > > is there some kind of online forum to discuss such things or to read
    >what
    > > > > people have written about this? im very much interested in music and
    >its
    > > > > ties to class, accessibility, race, privilege, etc.
    > > > > i think about such things when i go see shows. i could go off about
    >this
    > > >but
    > > > > in the end it would be to myself and i want to know what other people
    > > > > think....
    > > > >
    > > > > myrna
    > > > >
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