Re: bring da pitch down! / denon turntable

From: Ar C (hkshadow@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 29 2001 - 10:37:27 CET

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    Try to play the track on Boards of canada first LP (music has the right to
    children) with this girl counting (forgot the title) from 33 to 45 : this
    becomes an amazing danceable tune!
    Also i found once this compiltaion of 33rpm tunes played on 45.
    Did not buy it (i should) and now looking for it
    Anyone has an idea of this compilation / was 3/4 years ago

    ArC
    np : simian / chemistry is what we are LP
    port of notes latest LP

    >From: Jason Jasberto Batog <jasbat@home.com>
    >To: Acid Jazz Mailing List <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    >Subject: Re: bring da pitch down! / denon turntable
    >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:05:49 -0700
    >
    > > I been wondering... do other people here bring the pitch down on their
    > > records often? I find that with some of the records I buy it tends to
    >sound
    > > *better* when I bring the pitch down a few notches. I mean, for me I've
    > > always played records around -2, but lately I've found myself bringing
    >it
    > > down even lower to -4, -6, and all the way down!!! Not only that, but
    >I've
    > > been playing records that are meant for 45 at 33... thoroughly enjoying
    >it!
    >
    >I think most people have the preference to fool around with music's tempo.
    >Like for instance, I've never quite known what speed to play the Claude
    >Young remix of Innerzone Orchestra's "Bug In The Bassbin" 10". So I played
    >it at 45RPM but that's not the Mo Wax norm which is 33 1/3 RPM. Plus there
    >wasn't any indication of speed so I'd always play it at 45 RPM but
    >apparantly it is 33 1/3 RPM. To this day, I'm still not sure.
    >
    >Same thing with Gotan Project's "Triptico" 10" which contained the song
    >"Last Tango In Paris" which for awhile I thought was supposed to be on 45
    >RPM until I heard it on a CD compilation slowed down as if it were 33 1/3
    >RPM.
    >
    >But you are right in speed changes, in some instances, records do sound
    >good
    >sped up like Dzihan & Kamien's "La Bossa Arabica" which is quite an
    >interesting tune at 45 RPM. However, I have never heard a record that
    >sounded good at 33 1/3 RPM yet, oh except this one D&B tune but sounded bad
    >once the vocal snippets kicked in. Recently I heard I think Kenny Dope
    >play
    >a tune that had a (overused might I add) Patrice Rushen's "Number One" in
    >it
    >and it was slowed down to maybe 95-90 BPM which made it sound disasterous
    >and awful. But then again, Kenny Dope apparantly liked it. Not sure why
    >because it really sounded bad.
    >
    >Most recently I played Weather Report's "Young And Fine" once and found it
    >quite dull like a TV show intro but flipped to +6 makes it sound like a
    >sweet musical gem. Not too fast but sounded a little proper to the ears.
    >
    >Does anybody have a record that they can't figure out the speed for because
    >it's really hard to determine and there is no indication?
    >
    > > secondly... does anyone have experience with this Denon *turntable* that
    > > lets you adjust the tempo while keeping the pitch constant?
    >
    >Yeah I would have to agree with Olaf. I have heard music come out of this
    >key adjusting unit and it's really nothing special. Basically, the unit
    >plays the music but as you progressively move the pitch up or down the
    >spectrum, there sound does become more granular like it's been chopped up.
    >When I was using it too, records with pops sounded really odd, sometimes
    >the
    >pop would double or it sound sharp and distorted. Definitely not worth it
    >IMO. I think it had a coxial cable which maybe could beneficial but
    >obviously you are still going from analog to digital so there is still loss
    >from the needle. Or was that the Vestax, I know I don't like that Vestax
    >turntable though...
    >
    >JJB/opSN
    >

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