Re: Ninja Tune/Shadow records cash-in controversy

From: aspeitia axel arturo barcelo (abarcelo@indiana.edu)
Date: Fri Jan 12 2001 - 21:26:26 CET

  • Next message: Leslie N. Shill: "Re: Ninja Tune/Shadow records cash-in controversy"

    True. Also, in places like Mexico, they are practically the only accesible
    route to Ninja Tune Releases, . . . even if old ones.

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Steve Silvers wrote:

    > True enough, though they did introduce me to Ninja Tune and DJ Krush, so I
    > can't hate them
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Scott A Hunt" <scott@kendev.com>
    > To: "Nathaniel Rahav" <nat@rhythmlove.com>; "Joe Rice"
    > <joe@justiceleague.com>
    > Cc: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:50 AM
    > Subject: Re: Ninja Tune/Shadow records cash-in controversy
    >
    >
    > > Shadow records only shining moment was Sharpshooters "Choked Up." a
    > > personal all time jazz hip hop fav. and still well worth pickin up.....
    > >
    > > cheers,
    > >
    > > scotty
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Nathaniel Rahav" <nat@rhythmlove.com>
    > > To: "Joe Rice" <joe@justiceleague.com>
    > > Cc: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:02 AM
    > > Subject: Re: Ninja Tune/Shadow records cash-in controversy
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Shadow records always seemed to be operating under shady circumstances,
    > > > even from the get go.
    > > > This was apparent from their super cheezy acid jazz compilations....
    > > > Weren't they Instinct Records before that?
    > > > Or is that just another sketchy label that put out mediocre comps?
    > > >
    > > > anyway, thanks for the info, it's good to know.
    > > >
    > > > Nat
    > > >
    > > > P.s. Re: jazz beginnings - I had a drumming teacher who used to make me
    > > > play along to old Buddy Rich records, and I would do it half heartedly,
    > > > until one day I heard some jazz on WKCR 89.9 and it 'clicked'. I dont
    > > > remember who it was that I heard, but I suddenly understood the
    > > > significance of swinging...
    > > > anyway my first jazz album was Kind Of Blue, by far one of the greatest
    > > > works of music of the 20th century....
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Joe Rice wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > FYI...
    > > > >
    > > > > Joe
    > > > > ------
    > > > >
    > > > > 1/11/00
    > > > > FROM NINJA TUNE BY WAY OF MOTORMOUTH
    > > > > Contact: Brock Phillips (bmotor@pacbell.net), Judy Miller
    > > > > (wigbox@pacbell.net) or Jeff Waye (jeff@ninjatune.net)
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > URGENT PRESS RELEASE
    > > > >
    > > > > It has come to our attention that Instinct/Shadow Records is currently
    > > > > soliciting a compilation entitled "Ninja Tune : The Shadow Years" for
    > > > > release on January 23rd. This release is in no way approved by Ninja
    > > Tune.
    > > > > Shadow Records acted as a licensee of Ninja Tune material in the US
    > many
    > > > > years ago. In the short-time of the deal they released a few of our
    > > early
    > > > > titles. This deal ended in 1996 and since then they've felt the need
    > to
    > > > > continue repackaging what little amount of our catalog they still own.
    > > We
    > > > > feel this is nothing more than a shameless way to cash in on our 10th
    > > > > Anniversary Campaign of late last year, and the subsequent
    > > release/success
    > > > > of the 3CD "Xen Cuts" box set we released. In their onesheet/press
    > > release
    > > > > for this record they state "This incredibly low-priced double CD set
    > is
    > > the
    > > > > best way for new Ninja fans to be introduced to the label". We feel
    > this
    > > is
    > > > > untrue and that our 3CD box-set (also "incredibly low priced") is in
    > > fact
    > > > > the best way to introduce people to the label. "Ninja Tune : The
    > Shadow
    > > > > Years" offers absolutely nothing new, nothing exclusive, and nothing
    > > that
    > > > > even a passing Ninja fan hasn't already heard on our early releases or
    > > the
    > > > > endless stream of compilations put out by Shadow Records. Simply put
    > we
    > > feel
    > > > > this cheapens the Ninja name, makes us look like a "compilation
    > label",
    > > and
    > > > > it should not be considered a proper Ninja Tune release in any way.
    > Stay
    > > > > tuned for more great "new" records on Ninja Tune.
    > > > >
    > > > > More info, gripes, etc... contact Jeff Waye at jeff@ninjatune.net
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
    >

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