Re: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out there...)

From: Olaf Molenveld (
Date: Wed May 23 2001 - 10:34:23 CEST

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    it's a fact that many DJ's think that the quality of their sets is
    determined by technique instead of content....


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: eric kittell <>
    To: Mark Bartlett <>; 'Rasskazov Ilya'
    <>; <>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:46 AM
    Subject: Re: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out there...)

    RE: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out there...)yeah, house DJ's are
    funny that way, and I know a lot of 'em (here in Miami) and sometimes if I'm
    standing near the decks, and they don't get the blend so smooth, they'll
    give me this sheepish look, or blame it on the headphones, or the sound
    system... but as far as I can tell nobody really notices, I don't even
    notice most of the time unless I'm really listening for it, or unless it
    sounds like a major train wreck, which is easily averted with a quick
    cross-fade, as in when worse comes to worse...

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Mark Bartlett
      To: 'Rasskazov Ilya' ;
      Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:28 PM
      Subject: RE: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out there...)

      The UK heads have the right idea with the concept of the "selector".
    Stealing the concept from Reggae DJ's and applying it to Northern Soul
    parties, where you'd have a hard time beat matching Minnie Riperton to Paul
    Weller. Here in NY at least, where the scene is so biploar with hiphop and
    house dominating, I have been thrown some shade when I don't come with the
    smooth blends. If something isn't all cut up and scratch-mixed, or smoothly
    blended and EQ-twiddled for 5 minutes, you get funny stares. (Seriously, my
    house DJ peeps have longest blend contests...Like yo I blended those joints
    for 15 minutes on 3 turntables cousin...mental)

      I do feel I compromised my track selection in order to mix my broken beat
    biz into and out of house joints. In the past coupla months, there have been
    soooo many dope records coming out that I've just stopped doing that. I now
    build my sets on tracks that flow but might not be entirely
    "beat-match-able" (and hey I'm no formally-trained musician, but some of
    this broken beat stuff is just not in the classic 4/4 signature...) I've
    found it's all about context and application. If you're opening up the night
    at a dance party or playing in a more "lounge" environment you can open up
    the mix and do some nice fades and drop-out blends. If you're following a
    storming house set, and the crowd has been sweating hard for 4 hrs., they're
    gonna be less appreciative of eclectic selection and quiet bits with drop
    outs. In my ideal world there'll be mature dancefloors that can get down to
    something that is not a continuous 4/4 stream. Gilles P's Monday night Bar
    Rhumba had that kind of crowd, I assume the folks at the Co-Op night are
    feeling it as well, but I've yet to check that one out first-hand...

      I have found that my "fans" (all 10 of them ;) have started to feel the
    more eclectic, "broken" sets and I feel like I'm getting some good tunes out

      Check out Alex Attias' set at Swope, and some of the popular Gilles P.
    "mixes". These are all great "selections" of tunes that play whole tracks,
    use fade-outs and do intro/outro blends. I take those as my benchmarks for
    dope sets, not the snickering of the trainspotters standing by the decks...


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Rasskazov Ilya []
      Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:19 AM
      Subject: Re: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out there...)

      mixing acid jazz is really an interesting thing. I think it is possible to
    mix acid jazz (not only beatmatching is important, but your also have to
    know your own material), but if you put beatmatching in the first place, you
    don't have the freedom to choose any track you'd like to play.

      Last Friday i've seen dj Tadashi Yabe from UFO play at his own birthday
    party @club Blue Tokyo. Listening to him play i was like asking myself this
    question about beatmatching all the time. The thing that Yabe is doing -
    crossfading or hardcutting the tracks all the time. and only sometimes he
    was beatmatching. But, it all sounded like a very good mix, though it was
    very eclectic. So, you have to know very well where to crossfade or where to
    hardcut - this may be called the art of acid jazz dj-ing too.


    >Hi all,
    >I pretty much agree with Olaf's comments. Beatmatching
    >acid jazz tunes is not only just about impossible,
    >it's pretty much beside the point. Come up with a
    >great program FIRST, then just crossfade or hardcut
    >the tracks. I'd much rather hear a killer program that
    >wasn't beatmatched than a half-assed program that was
    >seamless. Content matters.
    >Take Care-----Paul Berger---
    >--- Olaf Molenveld <> wrote:
    >> i spin all kinds of stuff, house, garage,
    >> nujazz/brokenbeats/whatever,
    >> jazzfunk and acidjaz....when a record cannot be
    >> mixed properly and/or has an
    >> important intro or outro, i just crossfade the track
    >> in, or sometimes do a
    >> hard cut (i.e. start the second track after the 4th
    >> of the first one, making
    >> some kind of life edit)
    >> Olaf
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: aya lounge <>
    >> To: <>
    >> Cc: <>
    >> Sent: vrijdag 18 mei 2001 18:48
    >> Subject: Mixing Acid Jazz, (was: Re: hello out
    >> there...)
    >> > Hey, I just joined, so I don't know about these
    >> cycles yet, but I was
    >> > intrigued by how you say you got some good ideas
    >> for mixing, I wonder if
    >> you
    >> > could point me to the relevant thread(s) and/or
    >> re-cap some of what you
    >> > learned here. My DJ friends all play house music,
    >> on vinyl, and they
    >> always
    >> > match beats, and these records always have
    >> extended loops at the beggining
    >> > and end to facilitate this. On the other hand I
    >> spin acid-jazz CD's, at a
    >> > variety of tempos, and most of the tracks have a
    >> proper beginning, and
    >> some
    >> > even have a proper ending too. So I was wondering
    >> how anyone else in the
    >> > same situation goes about the mixing of tracks....
    >> >
    >> > Eric Kittell
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > >From: "Leslie N. Shill" <>
    >> > >To: "Dave Haynes" <>
    >> > >CC: "Erik Boralv" <>
    >> > >Subject: Re: hello out there...
    >> > >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:27:42 -0700
    >> > >
    >> > >the list is quieter but it tends to go through
    >> cycles, like anything I
    >> > >suppose. I hope it doesn't fade because ithas
    >> been a huge plus for me. I
    >> > >have found more worthwhile music here, more ideas
    >> about music and mixing
    >> > >and more interesting people that any other list I
    >> spend any time on!
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