Re: bring da pitch down! / denon turntable

From: Jason Jasberto Batog (jasbat@home.com)
Date: Thu Nov 29 2001 - 11:05:49 CET

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    > I been wondering... do other people here bring the pitch down on their
    > records often? I find that with some of the records I buy it tends to sound
    > *better* when I bring the pitch down a few notches. I mean, for me I've
    > always played records around -2, but lately I've found myself bringing it
    > down even lower to -4, -6, and all the way down!!! Not only that, but I've
    > been playing records that are meant for 45 at 33... thoroughly enjoying it!

    I think most people have the preference to fool around with music's tempo.
    Like for instance, I've never quite known what speed to play the Claude
    Young remix of Innerzone Orchestra's "Bug In The Bassbin" 10". So I played
    it at 45RPM but that's not the Mo Wax norm which is 33 1/3 RPM. Plus there
    wasn't any indication of speed so I'd always play it at 45 RPM but
    apparantly it is 33 1/3 RPM. To this day, I'm still not sure.

    Same thing with Gotan Project's "Triptico" 10" which contained the song
    "Last Tango In Paris" which for awhile I thought was supposed to be on 45
    RPM until I heard it on a CD compilation slowed down as if it were 33 1/3
    RPM.

    But you are right in speed changes, in some instances, records do sound good
    sped up like Dzihan & Kamien's "La Bossa Arabica" which is quite an
    interesting tune at 45 RPM. However, I have never heard a record that
    sounded good at 33 1/3 RPM yet, oh except this one D&B tune but sounded bad
    once the vocal snippets kicked in. Recently I heard I think Kenny Dope play
    a tune that had a (overused might I add) Patrice Rushen's "Number One" in it
    and it was slowed down to maybe 95-90 BPM which made it sound disasterous
    and awful. But then again, Kenny Dope apparantly liked it. Not sure why
    because it really sounded bad.

    Most recently I played Weather Report's "Young And Fine" once and found it
    quite dull like a TV show intro but flipped to +6 makes it sound like a
    sweet musical gem. Not too fast but sounded a little proper to the ears.

    Does anybody have a record that they can't figure out the speed for because
    it's really hard to determine and there is no indication?

    > secondly... does anyone have experience with this Denon *turntable* that
    > lets you adjust the tempo while keeping the pitch constant?

    Yeah I would have to agree with Olaf. I have heard music come out of this
    key adjusting unit and it's really nothing special. Basically, the unit
    plays the music but as you progressively move the pitch up or down the
    spectrum, there sound does become more granular like it's been chopped up.
    When I was using it too, records with pops sounded really odd, sometimes the
    pop would double or it sound sharp and distorted. Definitely not worth it
    IMO. I think it had a coxial cable which maybe could beneficial but
    obviously you are still going from analog to digital so there is still loss
    from the needle. Or was that the Vestax, I know I don't like that Vestax
    turntable though...

    JJB/opSN



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