Personally I don't like snobbism in any form but you do have a point.
Playing tracks from CD albums (especially compliation CD's!) is a bit of a
strange idea. 12"'s are aimed at DJ's and dancefloor - CD's in general are
aimed at the living room - two different beasts. Plus there is more fun in
playing remixes since not everyone's heard them a hundred times.
Actually I spent about 4 weeks solidly scanning in the cream of my vinyl
selection and exclusives onto CD-R... just for the sake of touring. Very
handy it was too! I think this is a valid use of CD format.
Tapes... arrgggh... I can just imagine the horrible cue issues let along the
chewed tape! :-)
That said - in the end its all about playing good tunes - b*ll*ks to
credibility. Actually personally I think DJ culture is far too overrated...
but we all have to do it. I'm a musician by nature, but people just expect
all producer to be a DJ too...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zachary Viggiani" <zach@playmedia.ca>
To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: The D.J.'so New Mix: Digital
FilesandaTurntable
>
>
> I am going to get hit for being so terse on this, but in my mind djs play
> vinyl and jokers play cds out. it is one thing to come out and play an
> original composition on cd-r that is a animal of a different nature, but i
> have very little respect for a dj that plays cds, especially if they play
> compellation cds. it says to me that they put in very little effort into
> their music selection. that is just the way i feel, if you play them all
> the more power to you, but i personally have little respect for them.
>
> in my mind, it should be a personal point of pride that you know your shit
> and put in the effort to get vinyl even though in the end it all sounds
the
> same coming out of the speakers. dj culture is build out of the 12" that
is
> where you get your special remix's, that is where your limited releases,
the
> odd b-sides that never make it to an lp. in my mind that is what it is
all
> about.
>
> to me it is like if in the 80's a dj came out and played tapes. they do
not
> have the history, or the cred.
>
> z.
>
>
>
> On 10/26/01 09:11 AM, "Olaf Molenveld" <olaf@interactivelink.nl> wrote:
>
> > i invite you all to go to www.expansions.nl and listen to some of my
mixes,
> > and then tell me
> >
> > A) doi you think they're done using CD's, Vinyl, compilations or 12"es
or
> > MP3's,
> > B) did you like the mixes? and
> > C) would you dance to the music? ;)
> >
> > Olaf (always curious and it's friday ;)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Neves <joao@triplebeta.se>
> > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:33 PM
> > Subject: SV: NYTimes.com Article: The D.J.'s New Mix: Digital Files
> > andaTurntable
> >
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is my first post on this list, im not new to the list, i've just
been
> >> lurking in the background for a while.. thought it was time to say
> > something
> >> here. Maybe i'll give an intro later on..
> >>
> >> In respons to your questions olaf:
> >>
> >> I thing what Heikki is trying to say here is that anyone can throw on a
> >> compilation cd and let it spin, this doesn't require any skill at all.
Its
> >> like looking at a musican playing an already programed intrument, in
other
> >> words boring. But it takes a skilled DJ to be able to mix a bunch of
song
> >> through-out a session (notice: this can be done with either cd or
vinyl)
> >>
> >> I myself have started to buy more vinyl then the last year or so,
mostly
> >> because its more fun to play vinyl when DJing. Its hard to put your
finger
> >> on it, but its something more magical over a peice of vinyl then a cd.
It
> >> probably has to do with the thing that its a little bit rarer with
vinyl
> >> then cds nowadays.
> >>
> >> And that is probably the reason we some people regard DJs who spin
vinyl
> > as
> >> "realer" DJs. Everybody have cds at home, but not everybody have vinyl,
> >> expecially not.. rare, white-labeled 12inches. And of course, the whole
> >> DJ/Rap culture started out with "two turntables and a microphone" also
> >> making it more "real" to spin wax instead of cds.
> >>
> >> Now.. im not saying that I back this claims all the way, im just trying
to
> >> explain, or lay out a theory at least on why some people do think this
> > way.
> >> I agree with the previours posters to this thread, that to mix vinyl
with
> >> cds is ok, as long as it is done in a moderate way.. hehe.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Joao Neves
> >> Sthlm, Sweden
> >> http://www.joaoneves.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> >> Från: Olaf Molenveld [mailto:olaf@interactivelink.nl]
> >> Skickat: den 26 oktober 2001 13:22
> >> Till: heikki kiviluoto; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >> Ämne: Re: NYTimes.com Article: The D.J.'s New Mix: Digital Files and
> >> aTurntable
> >>
> >>
> >> could you clarify a little on this statement:
> >>
> >> "and if they aren't people calling
> >> themselves deejays and playing just compilation cds and cd-r:s
containing
> >> already-released material."
> >>
> >> is it because it's to easy to buy a compilation CD? is it different
from
> >> DJ's spinning and mixing with vinyl albums (instead of 12"es)? do you
mean
> >> with compilation a compilation with radio-edits or do you also consider
> >> unmixed compilations with full 12" versions on it?
> >>
> >> about CD-r's with already released material: is this a music-pirating
> > thing,
> >> or something else?
> >>
> >> Olaf
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: heikki kiviluoto <heikki@enalahyysalo.fi>
> >> To: Olaf Molenveld <olaf@interactivelink.nl>; acidjazz list
> >> <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: The D.J.'s New Mix: Digital Files and
> >> aTurntable
> >>
> >>
> >>> on 26.10.2001 13:16, Olaf Molenveld at olaf@interactivelink.nl wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> what kind of experience do you have when you watch a DJ select 12"s
> > and
> >> put
> >>>> them on a turntable?
> >>>
> >>> well, if that dj happened to be - say - q-bert, i bet i'd sure have
some
> >>> sort of experience.:)
> >>>
> >>> then again, if the dj happened to be your regular club dj who does
neat
> >> beat
> >>> mixing and little gimmicks but not anything that special, no
> > extraordianry
> >>> experiences then..
> >>>
> >>>> i am honestly curious what it is about seeing a DJ
> >>>> playing vinyl vs. CD's.......is it that it's not common for people to
> >> have
> >>>> vinyl?
> >>>
> >>> myself being a vinyl junkie i just _happen_ to prefer vinyl over cds.
> >> vinyl
> >>> seems and feels more "real" to me. then again, i ain't bothered people
> >> using
> >>> cds as well as music has quality. and if they aren't people calling
> >>> themselves deejays and playing just compilation cds and cd-r:s
> > containing
> >>> already-released material.
> >>>
> >>> if any deejay stared using c-cassettes!.. that would rock!:)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Heikki Kiviluoto -> ddr rhythm/turku soul boys
> >>> turku, finland, europe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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> zachary viggiani : http://www.playmedia.ca : 416.516.9110 xt.54
>
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