Re: Napster

From: Olaf Molenveld (olaf@interactivelink.nl)
Date: Fri Mar 30 2001 - 15:58:35 CEST

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    delsin is a small outfit and the owner/founder also releases stuff on
    it.....it's a good label...dunno how it goes with other labels though..

    i don't think the people who downloaded your 12"es would have bought those
    otherwise..maybe they couldn't get it or they didn't have the money for it..

    Olaf

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: B. Young <bjy07@hotmail.com>
    To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:05 PM
    Subject: Re: Napster

    > I too have felt guilty at times for using Napster. I think I personally
    > made a mistake some months ago when I shared a lot of the vinyl that I had
    > recorded onto my computer for my cd's. I got all these people downloading
    > dope ass 12"s and spreading them all over Napster (I didn't let it go on
    too
    > long, but a good dozen or so bomb ass vinyl only tracks got away for
    free).
    > I know for a fact these songs weren't on Napster previously because I'd
    been
    > searching for them before I bought them and when I see them now, its the
    > same track length. I think it would have been ok had the songs been only
    2
    > or 3 minute samples. Now, I am selective about what 12"s I share and
    often
    > will only put a few minutes of the track.
    >
    > Sometimes I wonder if people really do buy the stuff they download. I've
    > downloaded a few hundred songs over the last year or so and most of it has
    > been stuff that I cant find (old/rare dance music, rare jazz, funk, and
    > soul, and also cd's I'd lost over the years). I am currently keeping an
    eye
    > out for the majority of the mp3's I have and can honestly say that I buy
    > plenty of music. Enough of making myself feel like it's ok. My thing is,
    I
    > know how people are, and know people who don't buy shit and download and
    > make loads of cd's. And i know a lot of people who don't have a computer,
    > but if they did, wouldn't hesitate to download everything they could. And
    I
    > dont think that's an assault on their character, its like damn... if
    > somebody is passing out free cd's of your favorite artists are you going
    to
    > take them? It is true that anybody who is deeply serious about their music
    > WILL buy the music and give back to the artists, however, think about this
    > (it's been said a thousand times)... When you buy a cd for 13 to 16
    dollars
    > and up, how much of that actually goes to the artist you want to support?
    > From what I hear, very little. Maybe a dollar at most. And the rest??? I
    > hate to think about it. Is this different for smaller labels? Do they get
    > all that money. For example if I buy a cd from Delsin for example, do the
    > owners and artist get most of the money after the record store takes its
    > cut?
    >
    > Later,
    > Beau.
    >
    >
    > >From: "Dave Haynes" <gvcontact@hotmail.com>
    > >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    > >Subject: Napster
    > >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:57:24 -0000
    > >
    > >I was wondering what everybody's views were on Napster. I have been using
    > >it
    > >for several months. I fell a bit guilty about it because I know I'm
    ripping
    > >off other people copyright. It is so useful though. If someone mentions a
    > >tune on the list that I haven't checked out, I can just pop onto Napster,
    > >download it and give it a listen. Then I can also see what else that
    artist
    > >has done. Although not everything is on there especially vinyl only
    > >releases
    > >- I can get most of the stuf that I want.
    > >
    > >The thing is though that lots of people are vehemntly against this. But
    > >from
    > >my own personal experience Napster allows me to preview tracks I may
    never
    > >have heard of. I may not pay for it then but I'd say about 70% of the
    time
    > >I
    > >then go onto buy the track on vinyl cos I want to play it out. I'll also
    go
    > >and buy more stuff from that artist which I may never have even been
    aware
    > >of before.
    > >
    > >I'm actually doing a research project on the whole area of digital music
    > >and
    > >was wondering what sort of views the acid jazz community had ont the
    > >subject.
    > >
    > >How many people are using? How many are against?
    > >How many artists on this list mind that there stuff could be getting
    > >downloaded without royalties being paid?
    > >
    > >Any thoughts?
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