Re: melodic electronica...

Sam Pennacchio
Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:29:04 -0500


I'm not sure I agree with this whole "It's gotta have melody 2 B good"
idea. Alot of music isn't about a great melody, catchy beat, or deep
groove, but simply about creating a certain type of mood; making u feel a
certain way, and as long as it succeeds in doing that, I'd argue that it's
great music as well.

Case in point: the Further Down The Spiral Ep by Nine Inch Nails. Man,
there certainly ain't any melody involvedhere, but whenever I listen 2 this
chaotic recording, I can't help but think that this is what hell would sound
like. Dante's Inferno often comes 2 mind when I put it on.

Other records that come 2 mind are "Get Up With It" by Miles Davis, and
alot of John Zorn's output. Sometimes, creating a certain mood is all the
artist is trying 2 achieve with his sounds; and achieving this goal may mean
having 2 stray from sounding "musical" in the traditional sense of the word.

Some would argue that what these artists are creating isn't music, but
auditory art, and I guess that I'd buy that argument; I don't really think
that u really listen 2 these types of sounds in the same way that u listen 2
melodic music. What I'm tryin' 2 say is that folks who listen 2 this type
of music (avant-garde types, 4 example), aren't listening 4 the same reasons
that "traditional" music fans listen 2 music; they aren't deriving the same
experience that someone who listens 2 music for melody is. Sometimes it's
nice 2 put on some freaky sounds that may not B melodic, but R real nice 2
listen 2 while stretchin' out and smokin' a joint, dig?

Keep Bumpin'

Stimpson
-----Original Message-----
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
To: philipm@isd.canberra.edu.au <philipm@isd.canberra.edu.au>
Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: melodic electronica...

>At 04:23 PM 3/12/98 +1100, philipm@isd.canberra.edu.au wrote:
>
>>well thats a bit of a generalisation, dont you think??? i dont know
>>about this 'electonica' thing you mention but if you have ever heard
>>any real detroit techno like carl craig, neil ollivierra, claude
>>young, kenny larkin or stacey pullen you will hear amazing original
>>creative music that of course contains melody. your comments make it sound
>>like melody is only simple & easy to hum along with. what about jazz &
>>classical music?
>
>First off, I'd appreciate it if you tone down your method of rebuttal. I
>was discussing about music, not insulting your mother. "That's a bit of a
>generalisation..." "Your comments sound like..." My comments are my
>comments. Did you want me to say something that would make you happy?
>
>Anyway, back to the discussion. Whistling and humming are everyone's
>musical instrument. Not everyone can sing, not everyone can play a trumpet,
>not everyone can mix and beat-match, but everyone can whistle and hum
>something from memory...from memory...a melodic statement that is
>*memorable*. Get what I'm trying to say? And what about jazz and classical
>music? People whistle and hum Mozart all the time. Folks walk out of jazz
>clubs humming the heads of their favorite jazz tune played by the band that
>night. It happens in all forms of music...or at least it should.
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